Farewell, Dynamic Democracy

Back in April, the Dig­i­tal Econ­omy Bill was rushed through the wash-up pro­ce­dure of the out­go­ing gov­ern­ment with­out the due debate and con­sid­er­a­tion that I and oth­ers believe such a far-reaching bill deserved. My dis­il­lu­sion­ment with the gov­ern­ment decision-making process over the fol­low­ing week led me to set up and announce a new site, called “Dynamic Democ­racy”. It was an exper­i­ment to see what would be dis­cussed if every­one was involved — on an anony­mous basis — rather than just our elected rep­re­sen­ta­tives that often do not do a good job of rep­re­sent­ing us anyway.

The site allowed all users to cre­ate and com­ment on ‘Bills’, encap­su­lated ideas or laws that they would be push­ing for if they were in power. Reg­is­ter­ing gave users the abil­ity to vote bills (and com­ments) up and down, lead­ing to a list of highest-ranked bills that rep­re­sented the users’ favourite poten­tial policies.

Dynamic Democ­racy saw lit­tle suc­cess, pos­si­bly because writ­ing a full, well-thought-out bill rep­re­sented sig­nif­i­cant effort that a casual browser would be unlikely to com­mit. ‘Karma’, the point sys­tem that aimed to encour­age users to sub­mit bills and com­ments, did not prove to be a good enough incen­tive as there were so few users to com­pete with and no direct reward was ever imple­mented for reach­ing high karma levels.

What the site did bring, how­ever, was a num­ber of enquiries from like-minded indi­vid­u­als all over the world, keen to dis­cuss the ideas behind the site and whether or not some­thing like Dynamic Democ­racy could ever be imple­mented as a real gov­ern­ment policy-making tool. One of the more notable con­tacts, Denny de la Haye, stood as a can­di­date for Hack­ney South and Shored­itch in the gen­eral elec­tion and promised to imple­ment a crowd-sourced vot­ing sys­tem sim­i­lar to Dynamic Democ­racy for his con­stituents to voice their opin­ions in Par­lia­ment through him. (Denny, who sadly did not win his seat, now rep­re­sents the UK arm of polit­i­cal party DemoEx.)

I have decided that today is the day to close the Dynamic Democ­racy exper­i­ment, because today the UK gov­ern­ment announced their “Your Free­dom” web­site. While largely focussed on repeal­ing or chang­ing laws rather than the com­plete free­dom to sug­gest any­thing you like, Your Free­dom is cer­tainly in the same vein as Dynamic Democ­racy, with the cru­cial extra fea­ture that is endorsed and used by our gov­ern­ment and thus ideas pro­posed there stand at least some chance of mak­ing it into offi­cial gov­ern­ment policy.

Time will tell whether that really hap­pens, or if like the No. 10 Peti­tions site, sug­ges­tions will be responded to with an e-mail from the Prime Minister’s office explain­ing why thou­sands of users are all wrong. But I do still hold out hope.

Did Dynamic Democ­racy influ­ence the gov­ern­ment in their deci­sion to cre­ate Your Free­dom? Almost cer­tainly not. As my dis­cus­sions with vis­i­tors to the site have shown, I am far from the only per­son to have come up with this idea, and nei­ther am I the only one to have coded up a web­site around it. No — this is sim­ply an idea whose time has come. A vast gulf exists between West­min­ster and the world out­side, just as it always has, but these days the pub­lic are com­ing to ques­tion why that is and if we can do some­thing to cor­rect it. And nowhere is the desire to bridge that gulf stronger than among the tech-savvy youth that have the drive and the abil­ity to use the inter­net to that end. Sites like these will come and go a hun­dred times over the com­ing years and decades, and slowly but surely we’ll reshape our gov­ern­ment into what we want it to be.

So to every­one who con­tributed to Dynamic Democ­racy: thank you, and goodbye.

If you’d like to con­tact me about Dynamic Democ­racy (or any­thing else), you can still do that here. If you’d like to help get the Dig­i­tal Econ­omy Act repealed, please vote up and com­ment on one of these ideas on Your Free­dom. If any­one would like use of dynamicdemocracy.org.uk until my own­er­ship expires in 2012, let me know. Stay tuned for the announce­ment of another project that bridges pol­i­tics and the inter­net in the next few weeks.

12 thoughts on “Farewell, Dynamic Democracy

  1. What a great idea this is! I still think it has a lot of poten­tial although I’m unclear *who* it is actu­ally for as the gap between the man-on-the-street and the polit­i­cal class is so huge. I would tar­get it more as a resource for polit­i­cal geeks.

  2. Being a polit­i­cal geek, I sup­pose it’s true that I’m not a good rep­re­sen­ta­tive of the man-on-the-street. But we’re largely a vocal breed, par­tic­u­larly online, and we make our opin­ions known much more read­ily than the pub­lic at large.

    Of course, the gov­ern­ment would have to be wary of tak­ing opin­ions on Your Free­dom as rep­re­sen­ta­tive of the coun­try as a whole, but before we start think­ing about that, I think we need to see if they take any notice of what’s posted at all!

    Case in point, I sus­pect the Dig­i­tal Econ­omy Act is going to be Issue #1 on Your Free­dom, and that’s a bill that the gov­ern­ment have sug­gested they have no inten­tion to repeal. If the D.E. Act doesn’t dis­ap­pear, I don’t hold out much hope for the rest of the site.

    (Whoa, re-reading that, I didn’t mean to be quite that neg­a­tive! I apol­o­gise on behalf of my inner cynic. :P)

  3. Hi Ian. I can’t seem to get the con­tact form to appear but I’m inter­ested in find­ing out more about this project and per­haps adapt­ing it in a cer­tain way for a Cana­dian con­text. Could you please send me an e-mail so that we might be able to chat about it?

    Thanks,
    Mark Dance
    Par­lia­men­tary Intern­ship Pro­gramme
    Ottawa, Canada

  4. Hi Ian, I am inter­sted in your project and I may be inter­sted in doing some­thing sim­i­lar. I would love to know you what you thought worked with your site and what you would do dif­fer­ently if you were to do it again.

    Thanks, Ward

  5. I think the core mechan­ics of the site (Digg/Reddit-style vot­ing on ‘bills’) were fairly good, but obvi­ously it failed, so there’s a lot of things I’d do differently.

    First off, no anony­mous com­ment­ing next time. I thought it was a good idea to remove any pos­si­ble bar­rier to entry, but I spent far too much time try­ing to fight spam (unsuc­cess­fully, in the end). I should have forced some kind of authen­ti­ca­tion, but min­imised the bar­rier to entry by includ­ing eas­ier and more obvi­ous ways to log in using Face­book Con­nect, Twit­ter etc.

    As far as the soft­ware goes, the last few years has seen a real growth in soft­ware to gen­er­ate this kind of site. Drigg on top of Dru­pal was func­tional but a bit rough around the edges — nowa­days there are ded­i­cated pack­ages for this kind of site (largely Digg/Reddit/Stack Over­flow clones, but still). One of those might have reduced some of the awk­ward­ness fac­tors involved with try­ing to turn a CMS into a rat­ing site.

    On the sub­ject of Stack Over­flow, a better-implemented Karma sys­tem with more obvi­ous and more desir­able rewards would have been good.

    Lastly, expo­sure is every­thing. Because cre­at­ing on DD is rel­a­tively hard (it’s easy to rate and com­ment, but com­par­a­tively dif­fi­cult to write a well-thought-out bill), a site like this needs a lot of atten­tion in order to have a rea­son­able base of con­tent. Prob­a­bly less than 1% of vis­i­tors will cre­ate a bill (cer­tainly the case with DD), so to have 100 bills, you might need over 10000 vis­i­tors. DD never got much expo­sure, mostly because I don’t really know how to do that sort of thing. The les­son there for “next time” might be that pro­gram­mers are all well and good, but you need some­one who’s good at PR to spread the word.

  6. Hi Ian,
    I was very sad to find your site only after it ceased func­tion­ing as I cer­tainly would have posted a bill! I agree entirely with your last com­ment that expo­sure is every­thing. I’m inter­ested in your project as I’m work­ing on some­thing sim­i­lar — how did you guard against peo­ple vot­ing numer­ous times for their own bill?

  7. Vot­ing was locked down as follows:

    • Reg­is­tered users can only vote once per bill
    • Unreg­is­tered users can only vote once per bill — lim­ited to 1 per PC by cookie, and to 5 per pub­lic IP address. Not an exact sci­ence, but prob­a­bly as good as you can achieve while still allow­ing unreg­is­tered users to vote
    • Account reg­is­tra­tions have a cooldown time (per IP address) to limit users’ abil­ity to cre­ate many accounts to bump up their own bills

    None of these are sure-fire ways of pre­vent­ing abuse, so as con­fig­ured it wasn’t appro­pri­ate for an offi­cial site — though arguably, the government’s own Your Free­dom site suf­fered from a cou­ple of the same weak­nesses.
    As always, there’s a trade-off between accu­racy and ease of use. My exper­i­ment was to push for ease of use as far as pos­si­ble (i.e. the min­i­mum pos­si­ble bar­ri­ers to a user inter­act­ing with the site).

  8. Hi Ian,

    I am still won­der­ing about the poten­tial of this con­cept. Here in the United States, there is great frus­tra­tion with our cur­rent sys­tem. Most peo­ple feel dis­en­fran­chised and that vot­ing in reg­u­lar bi-annual elec­tions are not worth their time. If there was a way for cit­i­zens to dis­cuss issues and vote on solu­tions how many would really join? You have said in Eng­land that not many proved to want to. With the right mar­ket­ing cam­paign and with the right incen­tive pro­gram for users do you think some­thing like this could take off? Or is it that, even with a per­fectly cre­ated and mar­keted site, peo­ple in gen­eral are just to busy, unin­ter­ested or apa­thetic to really make some­thing like this work. Are we doomed to busi­ness as usual?

  9. A bit of both, I think. The mar­ket­ing cam­paign — actu­ally get­ting the word out in the first place — is impor­tant, but I think the most impor­tant thing of all is for users to know that they stand a chance of mak­ing a difference.

    With hind­sight our government’s “Your Free­dom” site was also a fail­ure, as to some extent was the No. 10 Peti­tions site that pre­ceded it, even though the gov­ern­ment *was* on the other end, lis­ten­ing to what peo­ple said. The prob­lem was that few peo­ple believed that Gov­ern­ment Lis­ten­ing = Gov­ern­ment Act­ing. Get­ting past the ini­tial bar­rier of cyn­i­cism might be the most dif­fi­cult job of all.

    The No. 10 Peti­tions site had a time limit for each peti­tion, and if a peti­tion had gath­ered enough sig­na­to­ries at that time, it received an offi­cial response from the PM’s office. The rea­son it was dis­heart­en­ing to use the site was that often this response was along the lines of “Thanks for your input, you make a good point, but this is why you’re wrong”. To keep peo­ple engaged in an offi­cial ver­sion of a site like DD, I think the gov­ern­ment would have to keep their own opin­ions out of it as far as pos­si­ble — but that’s very much at odds with the way pol­i­tics is con­ducted today in both our countries.

    Ram­bling diver­sion over! :) When I say “a bit of both”, what I mean is that there are many types of poten­tial user — 99% will be apa­thetic, and all they will ever do is vote up / digg / ‘like’ a page that says some­thing they agree with. I think a designer of a site like this needs to really cul­ti­vate the other 1% that are pre­pared to put the time in pro­vided they’re sure their effort will be use­ful (they do exist, look at Wikipedia!), while acknowl­edg­ing that by and large, the other 99% are a lost cause. Turn­ing the 1% into 2% could be a mas­sive effort com­pared to mak­ing the site really good for the 1%.

    Of course, then you run into the prob­lem that if the site becomes impor­tant in policy-making, your poli­cies are being decided by 1% of the pop­u­la­tion that care, and the other 99% who just vote up sug­ges­tions that you legalise marijuana.

  10. If we want to make a dif­fer­ence in this world we need to make sites like these acces­si­ble to more than 1% of the pop­u­la­tion. If 1% is defin­ing the issues and cre­at­ing solu­tions how to you get many more peo­ple to vote? We are think­ing that if we make our site a vehi­cle in which large national groups can pro­mote their ideas, then they will use their net­work­ing power to attract their mem­bers to our site. Why would they do this? Because most national groups have maxed out the num­ber of mem­bers they can attract as they are preach­ing to the choir. We think a neu­tral, non-partisan, non gov­ern­ment, site that cre­ates a level play­ing field where all ideas com­pete against each other, might be an attrac­tive way for these orga­ni­za­tions to spread their ideas to a wider audience.

    Fur­ther­more, we would let cit­i­zens orga­nize them­selves into groups (neigh­bor­hood, issue, pro­fes­sion, etc.) and use their social media con­nec­tions to spread their ideas.

    We would main­tain one-citizen-one-vote so grass roots orga­ni­za­tions would have an advan­tage over astro-turf groups.

    We have been think­ing about a site like this for 6 months and are still debat­ing the via­bil­ity of the idea based on the shaky premise of a cir­cu­lar logic argu­ment: Peo­ple will play if: Many oth­ers are play­ing and there is the per­cep­tion that their efforts are mak­ing a dif­fer­ence: Their efforts will make a dif­fer­ence if peo­ple play in great enough num­bers so that pol­icy mak­ers can­not ignore them.

    This is where we are stuck. If you make the assump­tion that peo­ple are frus­trated with our cur­rent sys­tem and would be will­ing to par­tic­i­pate in a more inclu­sive on line sys­tem then how do you get the first mil­lion to do so?

  11. This is prob­a­bly the core issue fac­ing new social net­works and other new sites that depend for their func­tion­al­ity on hav­ing a rea­son­able num­ber of users. And, as you can prob­a­bly tell by the fact that Dynamic Democ­racy folded after a few months with only a few dozen users, that side of things isn’t exactly one of my strengths!

    Whether users’ efforts make a dif­fer­ence may be almost sec­ondary to the gen­eral prob­lem, “users will play if many oth­ers are play­ing”. To get the ini­tial rush of users that kicks it all off prob­a­bly involves some mar­ket­ing voodoo that is beyond my understanding :)

    As a sug­ges­tion, based on DD’s fail­ures, maybe try to intro­duce a level of inter­ac­tion some­where between vot­ing and bill-posting? With DD, bill-posting was a hook that got peo­ple com­ing back to the site — but it was a level of ini­tial invest­ment that most weren’t will­ing to put in. Vot­ing was at a low enough level that every­one did it, but it pro­vided no hook to return to the site later.

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